Anti Bar Council Forum Rally
Wednesday, August 13th, 2008
WARNING : Content MIGHT contain disturbing remarks over religions issue or such but I’m not condemning any of it, yet, I’m discussing it as a FREE THINKER and as a Malaysian who knows nothing bout Malaysian Law in specific..You’ve been warned..
Last Saturday, a bunch of Muslims protested at the Bar Council building at Jalan Lebuh Pasar Besar (nearby Central Market)..
They were demonstrating against the Bar Council’s forum on conversion to Islam forced the forum to end early than scheduled..
Apparently it’s an so-called open forum in a private premise, which is the Bar Council building itself discussing problems faced by some Muslim converts..
Well, I was not present at the scene that day so I didn’t how serious or heated the situation was..Everything just from Malaysiakini’s Video..
So from what we can see from the videos, this group of umat Islam actually going against the forum which they saidwas undermining Islam and the Constitution stated in Article 121 (1A)..
Well, I ain’t a law student so I don’t really know what’s stated in the Article..
I’m not here to condemn Islam or Muslim or being a racist or whatsoever..It’s just my view as a liberal Malaysian..
From what I can see from the video, it’s a group of people gathered illegally and interrupting a forum in a private premise..
Yes, you can say that the Bar Council was trying to challenge and opposing the Constitution even they themselves should know the law better..
What about gathering illegally and stormed into the Bar Council’s conference room? Are these acts deemed legal and courageous?
Can’t they do it with manner? And I think I heard some racial slurs from some of the fellow demonstrators..
Malay-Muslim is NOT the only race in this world that holds Islam..I guess most of them didn’t know that China got loads of Chinese Muslims..
Or they’ve forgotten that Middle Easterns aren’t Malay as well? Or maybe they thought Muhammad Ali the boxing champion is a Malay as well..
Well, I’m not picking on Malay nor Muslim here..It’s just that their mindset are too shallow and that reflects the others too..
If they want to protest, do protest in a proper way coz their silly act would definitely affect the good ones..I know NOT ALL Malays are that shallow-minded..
There are some smart Malays as well..And I didn’t say that all Muslims are stupid either..It’s all about what you do and that reflects your personality..
Same goes to other races and religions as well..I myself as a Chinese I do think that Mainland Chinese are quite dumb too..
Their attitude are dumb in a way, or perhaps their jakun attitude looks dumb..
And I always thought Americans are dumbass..Look at their President, George W. Bush..That’s a real dumb..
But anyway, back to the Bar Council forum issue..
In the second video, you can actually see political blogger Mahaguru58 got pissed off with one of the demonstrators, said to be PAS Youth leader or something..
Anyhow, the funny thing was even PAS Research Centre or whatever it is, they agreed on the forum..
Now that’s what I call matured thinking and they are focusing it on a larger scale, unity of Malaysians..Therefore we have an open forum..
I’m thinking, why all these Malay-Muslims were so afraid of their religion being discussed by others? They can discuss about Christianity or Buddhism if they want to..
These Muslim converts they discussed about Islam because they want to continue their life in a better way..
Say if they are not devoted enough to uphold Islam, what for they continue on because they were converts, just to marry an Islam partner..
Do you think they feel better living as a Muslim but not practicing it..
Worst come to worst, they wanted to eat pork but they can’t coz they are still a Muslim..In reality, they aren’t practicing Islam teachings, they aren’t fasting during puasa, etc etc, just to name a few..
If they discuss it doesn’t mean they are challenging the status of Islam for being the national religion or whatsoever..Why they have to be afraid of their religions being discussed?
And they even booed and jeered the people when they left the building..
With these kind of attitude, whoever wanted to marry to a Malay-Muslim anymore? They got booed and jeered for God’s sake..
Anyhow, I rest my case..
August 14th, 2008 at 3:22 am
It’s nice to be of no religion isn’t it. not responsible to anyone. not having to answer to anything. abit mo harder for everyone else though.
nothing wrong with your article. yes, bunch of dumbass some people can be sometimes.
just wana point that this is not alligned with your claim to be an observer
“What, they thought Malay damn powerful coz they are Muslims?”
cause it does sound racist/separatist etc and mentioning
“I’m not here to condemn Islam or Muslim or being a racist or whatsoever..It’s just my view as a liberal Malaysian..”
is not a fair justification of the previous statement.
always remember man, religion is what you make it to be. smart people can look dumb sometimes in the name of religion coz it goes beyond normal thinking as you follow your heart mo than the brain. BELIEF, is the word here.
and the spectrum wil never be in the middle (balanced). you have people like me, u have people like them. in the middle is a rare thing… anywhere, anytime.
back when i was in human rights activism, i see that discussion on this was ALWAYS based on preconceived notions of the religion in question rather than a lengthy understanding. who has time anyways rite.
just got to get it off my chest. see you man.
PS - what i love, is to see inter-religion debate on youtube. ahmad deedat is a good place to start. check it out.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:32 am
What The Fuzz >> yes i know the remark of “What, they thought Malay damn powerful coz they are Muslims?” is a bit of being racist or whatever -cist -cist it is..
buthen again, i would like them to know that Malay and Muslim is NOT the only race or religion in this world..
well then, i shall edit it to suit my readership..
thanks for sharing though
November 20th, 2008 at 2:11 am
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